Training Warriors for the 21st Century

Training Warriors for the 21st Century
Joong Do Kwan Traditional Taekwondo cross training with Kidokwan Perth

22 Apr 2008

Power Generation in Roundhouse Kick Videos

Long range roundhouse kick


It was a little late at night to be doing this - so please excuse the tiredness that you can see as I introduce the technique. Essentially this is a long range roundhouse kick striking the target with speeed generated at full extension. Note that the hands are generally held high for coverage.



Short range roundhouse kick


You don't get to see my beer fridge in this shot. The short range roundhouse kick is done using body compression (not contraction), which allows the kick to generate a sufficient power in a short distance. But it is not a kick to be trifled with. THe short range kick is an example of a very effective traditional combative tool.



Please check out previous post on the topic. Hope you enjoy it.

Check out my post on How to do a High Roundhouse Kick to the Head

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15 comments:

supergroup7 said...

YES.. I see the difference clearly. In fact, I've personally felt the difference as I have been experimenting with roundhouse kicks in an attempt to help my limited flexibility. I have learned that the short range type of kick was harder to execute ( for me) as the muscles contracted around my hips and limited my flexibility even more. Instead, the extended long range type of kick demanded a relaxed feel to the muscles around the hip to allow for full extension.. This improved the height that I could achieve.. I went from groin level kicks to shoulder level kicks quite quickly. The only real issues that I had was handling the greater change in the center of gravity, and creating speed while still keeping a relaxed hip. I found that my body wanted to protect my hip by tightening the muscles around it. I had to train my body to relax, and extend at the same time that the weight of the kicking leg was pulling on that joint. Thanks for the videos! I believe that I was thinking the same thing that you were saying :-)

Potatoe Fist said...

I don't think I have much to offer in the way of additional information, but I found it ironic that I had been working on the same thing in class in the last couple of sessions. It was one of those experiences that taught me that the more I thought I had it the less skilled the execution. We definitely work on the "long range."

Colin Wee said...

So when can we expect a video from you?

:-)

Colin

Potatoe Fist said...

If you burrow into my blog you can see a couple of katas which I now find atrocious. I'll try to make something new and see how it goes. You're very motivating.

Colin Wee said...

We all need to take our involvement with the online community to the next level - making it a part of our training. Shooting the breeze is too easy. We need to really stretch ourselves and show people what we mean! :-) And of course, I'm really interested in what you do. Colin

Colin Wee said...

I have been experimenting with roundhouse kicks in an attempt to help my limited flexibility.

The roundhouse shouldn't be hampered by flexibility. So long as you can perform a front kick, you can perform a roundhouse kick. It is essentially a front kick turned 90 degress on a vertical axis. Besides - have I mentioned to you to go for the nuts? I mean groin?

I have learned that the short range type of kick was harder to execute ( for me) as the muscles contracted around my hips and limited my flexibility even more.

I understand what you mean. Your flexibility makes it difficult to rotate your hips around the axis in order to kick horizontally. A neat Karate trick may help you - lean into the kick then towards the horizon. This spreads out the strain of flexibility off one hip and onto both - meaning you have half the strain! :-) This is not pretty, but is aligned with required power generation.

Instead, the extended long range type of kick demanded a relaxed feel to the muscles around the hip to allow for full extension..

The relaxation is from the expansion of the body - you should still feel muscular strain from the support hip as you pivot into the kick.

The only real issues that I had was handling the greater change in the center of gravity, and creating speed while still keeping a relaxed hip.

The COG raises off the hara and rises higher into the trunk of your body as you depend on your support hip to pivot and to thrust your hips forward. From what I see you are not used to coordinating the body for this type of kick. You should think of the entire body as a see-saw and work on creating balance in motion, rather than in stasis (as other karate kicks require).

I found that my body wanted to protect my hip by tightening the muscles around it.

Your karate training is doing this, and it is exacerbated by the fact that the upper part of your body has lost it's connection to the lower part of the body -- your core muscles are not 'engaged'.

I had to train my body to relax, and extend at the same time that the weight of the kicking leg was pulling on that joint.

Maybe you should try rotating more too?

Thanks for the videos! I believe that I was thinking the same thing that you were saying :-

Thanks for asking me! Now we can look forward to some videos from potatoe fist!!! :-)

Colin

Mathieu said...

That is basically almost what we do. except with body alignment to go with it.

Nice videos.

Colin Wee said...

Cool - did you check out Mir's post? Colin

Mathieu said...

I did, but unfortunately, I can't access it anymore.

I think it's very nice when people put their techniques on the web. It makes such a good educational tool.

Keep it up both!

Colin Wee said...

I think it's part of professional development, so am happy to open up every now and then.

I'll wait for videos from you now. :-)

Colin

Mathieu said...

ask and ye...

shall receive. I've put some up on my blog at

matsway.blogspot.com

My morning effort to not wake anyone worked. I shot those videos and noone got up :D

Be well

Colin Wee said...

Glad you did that. And I just realised I didn't have you blog on my list of blogs!

Mat's Way

Colin

Colin Wee said...

Glad you did that. And I just realised I didn't have you blog on my list of blogs!

Mat's Way

Colin

supergroup7 said...

I removed those videos from my weblog because they were more intended for my personal training than for display. I was purposely throwing away some aspects of the kick to experiment with others. I watched to see how my body dealt with each change to learn what I could learn about the movement.

One day I will put up videos of my roundhouse kicks, but when I do, I will have something that I feel confident in showing. I will be able to help others with the video rather than confuse them.

supergroup7 said...

By the way, Mat and Colin, I truly appreciate all of the information, and examples that you both have provided. As I watch the videos, and think about what you have said, I find that I can look at myself more closely, and work towards that "Aha" moment that I'm looking for within me.